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By Keeehama—Ngatihaua did not fight on land at Maungatautari during the time I lived there; the Hangahanga Pa was taken by Te AVhero AVhero, and Tv Korehu, i.e., Eewi, you were not there; Te Whero Whero is from Waikato ; he is not a Ngatihaua. Question. If Ngatihaua made war, would not Te AVhero Whero's party join them ? Answer. You have made him King, and you still have left him. Tangi Moana was killed by us; he went to Maungatautari to fight us, but this was in Koroki's time ; the reason Te Oro, of Ngatihaua, was killed was that he had murdered a Ngatimaru chief; when I went to Otaki, I went there with the knowledge that I should continue to hold Maungatautari. George Gage (half-caste), sworn —This land on the map is not Puahoe proper, but other land ; I am a Ngatiraukawa and Ngatimaniapoto ; I live at Kihikihi; Mangakopara is included in this map ; j claim a portion of the land included in this survey; when Mr Perry lived at Orakau he wanted Mangakopara for a cattle run; Eewi held a meeting, Ngatimaniapoto, Ngatiraukawa, and Te Uri-o-te-Paewae were there; Eewi told Te Katea and his younger brother to arrange the matter ; Katea said no, let Eewi and Ngatiraukawa settle the matter, some of our party, and Te Uri-o-te-Parewa want to place cattle on the run ; Mr. Perry paid £40 a year to Eewi for the run ; Eewi gave the money to Porokoru, who gave it to Pohepohe ; Pohepohe returned it to Eewi; Porokoru then leased land at Aratitaha ; Porokoru was blamed for this, and he was told to return the cattle ; Porokoru then returned the cattle, and took the money for the lease of Mangakopara ; Eewi was angry at this, and drove the cattle into a pound he had made, and did not release them until the white man had paid the money he asked; myself and Hoera went to Mangakopara and cultivated there ; this was in 1859 and 1860; when the war commenced we left it: my claim is to Mangakopara. By Te Beweti—l cultivated on the pa of Mangakopara; I had a house there in 1859 ; you were at AVhatawhata at the time, and did not see. Ropata Te Ao, sworn —1 live at Kapiti; I know Puahoe and Te Whanaki; I know this land from being told about it; I have a claim to this land from my forefathers, who own it; lam a Ngatiraukawa and a Werokoko; my elders lived on this land; I lived at Otaki; when Porokoru went South, he asked us to return to Maungatautari; the persons who returned with him were of Ngatikauwhata; after that time, I came and found them living at Kihikihi; Ido not know the year, but it was during the war ; Porokoru then pointed out to me the land belonging to my elders ; they included the whole of the Maungatautari district; he gave £20 he had received for the lease of the lands ; I jeceived a letter from my brother who was living at Kapiti, and returned in consequence ; I have not cultivated on this block, but I have cultivated with Porokoru at Kihikihi; this is the only time I have returned since ;Te Eeweti knows of my return here. By Te Waata —My elders lived on this land ; I was born at Kapiti; my parents lived on this land; they went to Kapiti; Porokoru went to get them back ; the only document of his to that effect is that I am now here in Court. Mehana Pdea, sworn —I live at Otaki j I am a Ngatiraukawa ; I have heard from my elders that Puahoe and AVhanaki belonged to them ; I was told by them to that effect, therefore I have come here; they said they had a claim to the land, therefore I think I have one; some of the persons who have claims to this block are absent; Ido not know how many ; Ngatihaua, from what I know, have a claim on this land. By Te Waata —My father went to Kapiti; Ido not know the reason of his going ; as far as I know, there was no reason ; I do not know that fighting was the cause; I do not know about the fighting ; I have no house on the land. Te Rau Anga Anga, sworn —I do not understand a map ;I do not know the boundaries of the block, as delineated on the map ; I live at Otaki; the reason of my coming is that I have seen the notice of the holding of the Court for Maungatautari; my hapu is Ngatitohae, through which I claim this land ; we went to Kapiti of our own accord ; we went to get guns ; the AVaikato chiefs invited us to return ; there was no quarrel between ourselves and Waikato, therefore they invited us to return. By Te Wheoeo —The people of Waikato who fought with us are not in Court; there are no Waikato in this house, only Ngatihaua and Ngatikowhi. Wiremu Pomare, sworn —I am a Ngatiraukawa and Ngapuhi; I know the places in this map ; I have a claim on this land ; I live at Mahuraugi; my claim is from the ancestors mentioned by Parakaia, viz., Huia, and Kauwhata ; I do not know how to trace the descent; I have been informed that these ancestors lived on this land ; I did not come here before this time to have the lands pointed out to me ; the name of the district is Maungatautari; Puahoe is the name of this block, but Ido not know the names of the umall pieces inside; I was born amongst Ngapuhi; this is the only time I came to this district; having heard that the land was to be investigated, I came; I have no cultivations or house on the land; my mother was a Ngatiraukawa and Ngatihaua; my father was a Ngapuhi; I have left the Ngatihaua because they have not shown any consideration towards me; in my opinion it is correct, according to Native custom, for a man to leave a district for two generations, and then return to the land; my sister paid a visit to Maungatautari at Kapiti; the reason of Te Whero Whero's invitation not being carried out, is that the persons are dead; those that are here are endeavoring to obtain the land; I allowed other persons to speak about the other blocks : I speak on this. By Apeeahama—l have fought with you; my grandfather was killed by you, because he came here to kill you; if you had gone into Ngapuhi country, you would have been served the same way; f do not know of your going on to Ngapuhi land to fight us; Ido not know of your going to AVhangaruru ; if you had gone to Tokerau, I should have known; my relations, on my mother's side went to Kapiti; Ido not know the reason why they went there; I know that this land belongs to me ; it was mine formerly, and is so now, from Te Wheoro AVhoero and other chiefs having returned the land to us; we did not say to Porokoru, who is going back to your land. Matene Te Whiwhi, sworn —I am a chief of Ngatiraukawa, I live at Otaki: the land in these boundaries belonged to Ngatiraukawa ; I have been told that the boundaries of our land were (but I do not consider them as such at the present time), commencing at Pukehina, going straight to Pirongia