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to Chemis after the last occasion when, Bound returned it. I still can only remember Bound borrowing it once. I cannot remember if I lent it to any other persons or not. I cannot say positively I saw Bound on Monday night last. We had an argument about the shot-pouch. They asked me what sort of a pouch it was, Greaves and Dowd. Bound said he could describe what sort of a pouch it was, and I said I could too. We both described it. We both described it together.. Bound said he believed there was a picture on the outside of the pouch. Greaves, Dowd, and Tim Dowd were present. They were standing close together at the time. It was raining. I live at Kaiwarra. I did not know we had time to catch the train, or I should have gone out by it last night. I was not warned a second time not to speak about this case when I was here the second time. They did discuss my evidence, and they did not discass theirs. I knew it was not improper so long as I did not talk about this case. By Mr Bell.] Nobody has spoken to me about the description of this pouch since I gave my evidence. I spoke to Mr. Fisher this morning about not being able to identify the pouch, because there is no picture. Fisher is an expressman. I went out of friendship. I wanted to speak tohim. Fisher has been in Court. I was talking to him about this case. It was after dinner to-day. I could not say if I have seen Fisher in Court. Mr. Harris can say there was a picture on theflask. I told Overend there was a picture on it ;it was a picture with a man, a gun, and a hare or rabbit on it. I will not swear it had a picture on it, and I will not swear it had not. I have read what Bound said about the pouch. I do not swear what he says is false. He said there .was a picture on it when he described the pouch. He was not sure there was one or not. Was the pouch you lent Chemis a pouch with a picture on it ? —To the best of my knowledge it had one on. lam not able to say whether I took it away from Chemis's or not, and I am not able to say if I lent it to anyone else. By the Gotirt.] I could not say if the pouch I left at Chemis's was Hodges' or not. I had noother I could have left. If I did leave one at Chemis's it must have been Hodges'. I had no other one. Frederick Greaves recalled : (To Mr. Bell.) Gibson told me some time before Easter, before the shooting season, that he had left a shot-pouch at Chemis, but he was not certain. I had not talked over the matter with Mrs. Chemis since yesterday. I have not talked about this case to Harris nor Dowd —about this case. I walked home with them last night, and I walked in this morning. We have been together this day. The words " Hodges," " shot-pouch," have not been mentioned. Yesterday I was going to tell you that Gibson had got Hodges's shot-flask for so many years, and he was not certain if he had left it there or not. Gibson told me he thought he had left a shot-pouch at Chemis's. It was Hodges's shot-pouch I went to ask Gibson for. Gibson did not ask me about a knife. He asked me just before the shooting season—l think about the same time as 1 asked for the pouch—if I would get him his knife and pouch from Chemis's house. I believe it would be the same night. I went to Chemis's house, and Chemis told me he had not got it. You did not ask me about it yesterday that is why I did not mention this yesterday. You told me to confine myself to answering questions. I just answered your questions. I remembered this yesterday. I did tell Gibson that Chemis said he did not have the pouch the day after I took the knife and sheath back as I believe Gibson did not ask me about it. I told him I had taken his knife back but did not get the pouch. Ido not believe Mrs. Chemis was there when Chemis said the shot-pouch was not in the house. I am not a Catholic. I got the knife from Chemis some time before the shootingseason. I will not be certain if it was Chemis or his wife who gave me the knife. I believe it had a belt on it. Gibson killed a pig with it once. It was in the house. Ido not know if it was used. I never saw a sheath at Chemis' house except the one I took back to Gibson. I have seen a sheathknife in the house. They used it for carving. I never saw the sheath produced in Chemis's house. I never saw this sheath or the knife before—not in Chemis' house. I have seen a similar knife in butchers' shops. [Bemanded to 30th August, 1889.] Frederick Greaves recalled : By Mr. Bell.] I have not a powder-flask. I never had one of my own. I have had one in my house, I believe. I could not be certain if I have ever had Chemis's in my house. That is the only one I have had if I have had any. I could not say if I always returned Chemis's flask on the same day that I borrowed it. I never took a powder-flask to be mended to any person, or shotflask. lam quite certain of that—never on any occasion. I do not believe I did take one to be mended this year. lam almost positive I had never a powder-flask but Chemis's in my possession for the last three years. I know a Mr. Fink. I did not take a flask to him to be mended. I took a part of a flask to him. I took the inside part of the flask. I did not remember about it just now. It was a little concern inside the flask I took to Fink. It was a rivet wanted putting in. I did not have the flask in my pocket when I went to Fink. I cannot say when it was ;it was about the commencement of the shooting season. It was Chemis's flask I took. It wanted a little rivet inside. By Mr. Jellicoe.] The flask produced is the one. I took the piece I now take off. I took the little piece to have the rivet put in. I was going to do it myself but he proposed to do it. The spring was broken. It was before Dybell mended the spring. The spring was broken when Fink put in the rivet. I remember asking Bound about the shot-pouch which, it had been rumoured,, had been found, and which Gibson thought he had left at Chemis's house. Bound said he had borrowed it twice from Gibson. I think he said twice right off the reel. Did he say what was on it ?—No, sir. I was paying particular attention to what he was saying. I was thinking how it could have been at Chemis's without me seeing it. Gibson, at the beginning of the shooting season, asked me to bring a knife and sheath from Chemis's. What occurred was this : some few daysbefore the shooting season I was talking to Hodges at work about shooting. He told me that Gibson had had his pouch for the last two or three years. I went to Gibson a day or two after this-