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366. Mr. Cooper.] That is the isolated portion ? —Yes. 367. Then, there is a portion. Is that Kemp's Bace? —There is a water-race there, and there I allowed more on account of the water-race and dam. 368. Hon. E. Blake.] What mining property does that serve? —A man working on the seabeach. He has a water-race running along the beach, to wash the black sand. 369. Mr. Cooper.] Would there be any necessity for any other portion of that hatched part being cut out for water-races or dams ? —No; the men working along there are hardly making a bare existence. 370. Do you think they would find more gold if they had more water ? — No, I do not think so. lam certain the beach is getting poorer, and the same with the other parts. 371. Do you think if they had water-races they would take up the lower portion of that beach? —There are no creeks to bring the water. 372. There is no water to come ? —No. This is a limestone hill in this part, and there are no creeks to collect the water. That is the reason they have these little dams. 373. Hon. B. Blake.] Have not these little gullies some water flowing in them ? TakeLovell's gully ?—Very little. 374. What water they have is dammed up in these dams and used for beach-washing, so that practically all the water that is got is availed of?— Yes, we allowed for them. [Exhibit 98 put in—plan of the same group going up the Coast—Cobden Group.] 375. Mr. Cooper.] Do you consider that land as altogether improperly reserved ?—The portion along the bsach I consider improperly reserved. 376. Hon. E. Blake.] You say only the portion ?—Only along the beach, the same as the other portion. 377. Will you describe what portions you devoted yourselves to ? Did you go singly to different parts or did you go in groups ?—Two would go up one gully and two would go up the next gully. 378. There were always two or three together ? —Two, three, or four. 379. Out of eight or nine ? —Out of ten or a dozen. 380. So that what you personally saw in this expedition would be one-fifth of the number?— I am only speaking of what I saw myself. 381. You have been speaking generally all through, but occasionally you said that you did not see one particular part when your attention was called to it ? —I did not see the eastern or the western portion. 382. You have been giving evidence about a great number of blocks. There were ten or twelve in your party. You would go in couples, or three or four, and it seems to follow that you personally would see only one-fourth of the area, while, the others were looking at the other parts. Is that not so ? —The portion I have been speaking of I have been to myself. 383. Mr. Cooper.] In reference to this particular series of the Cobden blocks?— Yes; all this block we are coming to now. I have not been there so much as the other portions. 384. I think you made two examinations of the blocks in the Grey. How many had you in your party at the first examination ?—Four. 385. Hon. E. Blake.] Did you look at everything ?—Yes, and went there to have a look again to make sure. 386. Mr. Cooper.] Then, you divided into parties ? —Yes, to find out the particulars of the mines in each creek. 387. You did not follow the same course with these Cobden blocks?— No. 388. And that is the reason you drew attention to it ? —Yes. 389. You, personally, confined your attention to the portion of the reserves abutting on the beach?— Yes. 390. Can you state who were with the party in the examination of this Cobden block?— Messrs. Perotti, Daniel, Jones, Wisdom, Kyle, Dowling, Kane, Harper. 391. Hon. E. Blake.] Who formed your party on the first inspection, in June?— Messrs. Perotti, Daniel, Jones, and myself. 392. Mr. Cooper.] Was that the June inspection?—lt was made in June. 393. Now, in reference to your own examination of Block 93, Mr. Fenton ?—I could see no goldworkings along this beach in Block 93. 394. How far did you carry your examination inland of that block ?—Sometimes we could see a mile, sometimes half a mile, and sometimes two or three miles. 395. You saw no gold-workings along the beach. Did you see any indication of them ?—lf there had been gold-workings you would see the debris from the mines coming down the creeks. 396. You saw nothing of that kind ? —Nothing of that kind. Wherever there had been goldworkings we could see. 397. Had you a general knowledge of the country?— Yes. 398. I mean from what you obtained in this examination ?—Only hearsay. 399. I beg your pardon. What was the nature of the country you examined ?—Rather hilly country. There did not appear to be any alluvial wash. Some of it is coal country also. 400. That is all you can say personally as regards Block 93 ?—Yes, that is all. 401. In reference to Block 94, Mr. Fenton, as far as Barrytown : what have you to say about that ?—The same. 402. Hon. E. Blake.] What did you see of that part ?—I went along towards the beach, as in the case of Block 93. 403. Mr. Cooper.] Did you see any indications of gold-workings either along the beach or indications that there were gold-workings inland ?—No. 404. Hon. E. Blake.] There seems to be a little reserve there ?—I think we allowed something at Baker's Creek and those other creeks.