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419. Have you made any systematic observations since then ?—No. 420. Did you see any police about the house that day ?—No, not while I was there. 421. None went in?— No. 422. Do you know what Sunday it was in March? —It was about the 4th March. 423. Did you see any policeman pass on beat ?—No. 424. You do not remember ? —No. 425. If Mr. Herron says a policeman stayed for three-quarters of an hour outside the hotel would you contradict him ?—No, that was my dinner-hour then. 426. You were off for a while ?—Yes. 427. Do you remember what time that was?— Between 1 and 2 o'clock. 428. What is stated on the notes with regard to the policeman ?—" Policeman hovering round for three-quarters of an hour." That is marked between 12.30 and 2.30. 429. Mr. Tunbridge.] Do I understand you to say you left your watching altogether for that hour? —Yes. I was watching continuously all but that hour. 430. When did Mr. Herron leave?—He left between 12 and 1. 431. From 12 to 3 there was only one watching?— Yes. 432. The Chairman.] Who made that entry then, " 12.30 " ?—Mr. Herron. 433. He was not there ?—Well, this has been made out since then. 434. Mr. Taylor.] Where are the original notes ? —We put it down roughly, and then copied it out afterwards. 435. How soon afterwards ?—The same night. It was made out from rough notes on the same night. 436. The Chairman.] Then, at some time or other between 12.30 and 2.30, the policeman was there ?—Yes. The constable was there between 1 and 2. Augustus Thompson examined on oath. 437. The Chairman.] What are you, and where do you live?— Carpenter, Daniel Street. 438. Mr. Taylor.] Do you remember being with Mr. Petherick in 1894, collecting information as to Sunday trading ?—Yes. 439. Do you remember the date ?—lt was Sunday, 4th March, I think. 440. What hotel were you taking notes as to the number of visitors to ? —The Newtown Hotel. 441. Do you remember what time you were there? —From 7.30 to about sor 6. I could not tell you the exact time I came away. 442. Did you take refreshments with you ?—No ; I went home to get them. I went home between 12 and 1, and Mr. Petherick went afterwards. 443. What was the total that day ?—About 180. There were 154 men, ten women, eight boys, and eight girls. 444. Were any of them carrying bags or bottles, or jugs, or anything of the kind ?—Some of them had a kit, others had something under their coats and cloaks. Of course, we could not see what they were carrying. 445. Did they look like travellers, or were they people in the neighbourhood ?—I think they looked like people in the neighbourhood. I could not say, because I was not living in the neighbourhood at the time. 446. But they looked like residents ? —Yes. 447. Did any of them show signs of intoxication at all ?—Not that I know of. 448. What impression did you form, that they were just going in and out for drinks ? —I could not swear what they were going in for. _ 449. Did you see any police about that day ?—I saw a constable that was stationed at Newtown go by. 450. Was there anybody watching in front of the house ?—I did not see any one watching. 451. Have you made any systematic observations since that date? —No. 452. The Chairman.] Have you any experience in the use of stimulants? —No. 453. You do not know how much it would take to make an ordinary person show he was the worse for it ?—No. 454. Mr. Taylor.] Are you a teetotaller ?—I am. 455! The Chairman.] You do not know whether one glass would upset a person, or two or three, or more ?—No. _ ' 456. You do not know how long these people were in there > —JNo. Gboege Pbthebick examined on oath. 457. The What are you, and where do you live?— Bootmaker, Taranaki Street. 458. Mr. Taylor.] Do you remember helping Mr. Thompson to collect information bearing on the question as to how many people visited the Newtown Hotel ?—Yes. 459. Do you remember the date ?—Yes, the 4th of March, 1894, on a Sunday. 460. What time were you taking notes ?—From 7 o'clock till about dusk. 461. Do you remember the total number of visitors? —One hundred and eighty. 462. Any of them carrying kits or bottles, or anything to show that they were likely to fetch liquor away? The first entry was of that description. The first entry was a girl, about 7.15. She had a kit. She was let in by the man that was watching the surroundings of the hotel. 463 Did a number of them carry kits or bottles or vessels of any kind during the day? —Two or three of them. I could not say how many. There were ten women, eight boys, and eight girls.