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230. From that you went to the Moutere? Did you know where you were going?— Yes. 281. You remained at Stade's how long?— About a week, until the constable came for me. 232. Did Mrs. Stade give you a shirt?— Yes. 233. Your boots; were they taken from you ?—Yes. They were too small. Mrs. Daniel Druminond gave me new boots. 234. You were brought to the Courthouse and afterwards ordered to be sent back to the school ?—Yes. 235. Well, you went back. Do you remember the members of the Charitable Aid Board going up to the Orphanage ?—Yes. 236. Where were you on that day ?—ln a cell. 237. How long had you been there then?— Seven days. 238. When were you let out ?—The day after the members of the Board came up. 239. Were you in there all day and all night?— Yes. 240. Mr. WardelL] Do you mean all the week ?—On the Thursday I came out and was writing in the study. 241. From the day you were put in until the members of the Board came up, were you taken out of the cell to be caned or anything?—l was taken just outside the door for punishment, and was taken to Mass twice. I was not taken out for anything else. 242. Mr. Bush.'] How many times were you punished ?—Four. 243. Mr. Harley.] How were you punished ?—On the hands. Twelve strokes the first time, and six other times. 244. During the eight days did anybody go up and sit with you ? —One of the Brothers did every day for about five minutes. 245. What did he go to see you about ?—To see how I was getting on. 246. Were you left alone all night? —Yes. 247. Mr. WardelL] Did the Brother talk to you when he came?— Yes. 248. Mr. Harley.] Was there at any time a chair, stool, or anything to sit on in the room ?— No. 249. You had a bed at night ? There was a mattress on the floor? —Yes, and four blankets. 250. That was warm enough, I suppose ?—Yes. 251. Were you warm enough in the day time ?—Yes. 252. Did the sun ever shine in where you were ? —One little ray came in. 253. Could you see through the window or opening when standing on your feet? —I had to look up to see through. 254. Mr. WardelL] Was the opening higher than your head ?—Yes. 255. Did the sun shine into the room?— Yes. 256. Mr. Harley.] But it did not shine into the cell except one little ray ?—No. 257. How large was the opening in the cell? —About 18 in. square. 258. What did you have to eat when there?— Sometimes a Brother brought up bread and coffee ; sometimes bread and water. 259. Was there anything on the bread ?—Yes, pumpkin jam. 260. Do you remember a piece of bread stuck in the bars when we were up there ?—Yes ; it was left from my breakfast. 261. What did you have for dinner in the cell?— Stew. 262. And for tea ? —Sometimes water; sometimes tea. Had water twice. 263. When you wanted to make water what did you do?— There was a can there. 264. When you wanted to go to the w.c. did you use the can too?— Yes. 265. Mr. WardelL] How often was the can removed ?—Sometimes twice a day, sometimes once. 266. Mr. Harley.] On the day after the Board were there, you were put in the study ?—Yes. 267. How long was it before you were put out with the others? —That was the day. 268. What happens to the boys who cannot drag the posts down the hill ?—Nothing. 269. How many times a day have you been up the hill for posts?— Twice. We would take one load down in the morning, and one in the evening. 270. Do you know that some boys went up four times a day ?—No. 271. How many suits of clothes had you? —Three. One for every-day, one for Sunday, and the other I have on now, which is the visitors' suit. 272. Is it called the visitors' suit up there ?—No ; it is called the picnic suit, because we went to picnics in them. 273. Is that the suit you used to put on when visitors came?— Yes. 274. How do you know when to put on this suit ?—The Brothers told us to change, as visitors were coming. 275. Do you know of any preparations that were made when visitors were coming ?—■Nβ. 276. Do you know anything about the beds being done up ?—The beds were done up the same every morning. 277. Did they get any extra doing when the visitors came?— No. 278. Have you an undershirt on now ?—No. 279. Mr. WardelL] Do you generally wear anything under your white shirt?— No. We only wear one shirt. 280. Mr. Harley.] Do all the boys go without undershirts?—A few boys .have them. Their mothers sent them. 281. How many shirts and pair of socks have you?— Three shirts, two pairs of socks. 282. Mr. Bush.] Have you a waistcoat on now ?—-No. 283 Mr. WardelL] Do you generally wear a waistcoat ?—Yes. 5—E. 3b,