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on record. We have cases in New Zealand of English surveyors who have come to our country for the purposes of health; they have all the qualifications necessary, but they are not allowed to practise in our country as surveyors. I have read the memorandum from those responsible for circulating it in reference to the matter of reciprocity for the protection of 'land surveyors and architects, and all I can say in connection with this is that the principal surveyors in New Zealand all belong to the Surveyors' Institute, which is not a mere gathering together of men controlled as explained by the Act of Parliament, but they are most jealous of the privileges of the surveying profession. Mr. F. R, MOOR : I do not like to interrupt. Lord Elgin, but there are only one or two delegates here now, and I would like to know what has been done with respect to that previous resolution. It has not been put in any shape or form. CHAIRMAN: the last one? It was decided that it should be recorded, and the only resolution upon it was that it should be reserved for further consideration. Sir JOSEPH WARD : What the New Zealand surveyors are anxious to do is this. They want to prevent a man having to commence again, and go over the whole gamut of the ordinary examinations, but they want him to comply, by examination, with all the local conditions, local requirements, and local regulations in the case of a man from England. CHAIRMAN : Is there any objection to accepting it? Dr. SMARTT : Before that is accepted, I should like to have the opportunity of seeing some papers we have on the subject, and I have not got a copy here. I understand that what Sir Joseph Ward suggests is that any surveyor who is qualified in New Zealand should, under the reciprocal arrangement to be authorised, if he has satisfied the authorities that he has the necessary knowledge of the local Acts or regulations which may be in force relating to the survey of land, &c, be entitled to practise. As far as I am informed, in the Cape Colony the surveyors' examination is an examination of a very high standard indeed, and deals with many matters besides the mere surveying of land, and I would like to have an opportunity, before the Conference came to a resolution upon this, to look at these papers. CHAIRMAN : It is dealt with in the report from the Surveyor's Institution. Dr. SMARTT : I haye not had an opportunity of reading that. CHAIRMAN : I think you will see that there they propose to establish an examination which would satisfy those conditions. Dr SMARTT : Sir Joseph Ward's resolution does not propose that. He proposes that if a man is qualified as a surveyor in New Zealand on showing he has a knowledge of the Acts in force in the other portions of the Empire in which he desired to practise he should have the opportunity of being allowed to practise the profession of surveyor irrespective of whether there was a difference in the standards of the examination in the various parts ot
Thirteenth Day. 8 May 1907.
Reciprocity as to Surveyors. (Sir Joseph Ward.)
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