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85. Accustomed to the open air? —Yes, used to knocking round the country baching. Hard work would not kill him, anyhow. 86. Is there anything else you want to say about the matter?—Of course, the Commission will find out how they treated him, and why he was taken from Trentham to Kaiwarra. 87. Do I. understand that Solomon can give evidence as to how he was treated before he was ill ?—He can speak as to how they were treated. 88. Dr. Martin.] How many patients were in this room where your brother was?—l never counted them; I did not have time to look. There was a screen, or a towel-horse with a sheet over it, in front of Fordham. 89. AVas Fordham next to your brother? —No; they were both under windows opposite to one another. There would be about six patients on each side of the room. _ They were not very far apart, but there was room for a man to get between the stretchers. 90. Had you any difficulty in getting between your brother's bed and the bed next to it? —No; they had a screen between. 91. Do you think your brother wanted anything he could not get?—No; he did not ask for anything. 92. He did not make any complaint about the nursing?—No, he was too bad; he was dying when we got there. Whatever he developed I think he caught when going from Trentham to Kaiwarra. I think he developed pneumonia after being shifted from Trentham to Kaiwarra. That is what we want to find out. They would not tell us what date he was taken from Trentham to Kaiwarra. When I asked them they could not tell us, and when I asked them what was- the matter they said it was bronchial pneumonia, and then said it was septic pneumonia. There is one thing I should like to know, and that is his temperature on the Wednesday before he went to the hospital. 93. You do not know what doctor he saw?—No, we know nothing. He was in too bad a way when we got there.

Dr. Herbert Goldstein sworn and examined. (No. 39.) 1. The Chair man.] What are your medical degrees?— Bachelor of Medicine and Surgery, London University. 2. What military rank do you hold? —Captain. 3. Have you been connected with the Trentham Camp at all? —No. 4. You have been at the hospital?— Yes; I have been in charge of the military ward at the hospital since the 14th July. 5. Had you no military appointment in connection with the sick before that?—No, sir. 6. We were informed that you could tell us about the scarlet-fever cases: is that so?— Yes, 1 got the details. 7. There were two cases, 1 believe, of scarlet fever sent to the Wellington Hospital: is that so ?—Yes. 8. And had you anything to do with either of them?—No, not the first two. 9. Is there a case there now?— There was a case on the 19th July. 10. What we have is that Dr. Frengley suggested that information could be obtained from you as you were in charge of the cases ?—Only this one on the 19th July. 11. Where did that come from? —He was in the ward on the 26th June. He was in Kaiwarra with measles, and sent to Wellington Hospital because he became ill. There was no real diagnosis made at the time. 12. Dr. Martin.] He was really under observation?— Yes. 13. Where was he put in Wellington ?—ln Victoria Ward. 14. What cases were in the Victoria Ward? —That is' really for the complicated cases of measles. 15. I understand he was taken from Kaiwarra, which contained measles, and put into Victoria Ward, which contained measles also?— All those cases in Victoria Ward were measles. 16. Mr. Ferguson.] Who was the doctor who sent him from Kaiwarra? —I expect, Dr. Harrison. 17. Dr. Martin.] When was the diagnosis of scarlet fever made? —Not till the 19th July. He was quite well for a fortnight in the ward, and suddenly one day his temperature shot up, and he developed scarlet fever on the 19th. The point is that on the 11th July there was another scarlet-fever case there. 18. Where from? —That was from Trentham. 19. He was admitted on the 11th July from Trentham? —He was admitted on the 7th and diagnosed on the 11th. 20. It was sent in from Trentham as measles?— Yes. 21. And was put in amongst the measles patients'? —Yes. 22. And on the 11th July the diagnosis was altered to scarlet fever?— Yes. 23. Of course, they were both taken and put in the scarlet-fever wards? —Yes. 24. And the usual contacts were kept under observation ?—Yes. 25. Mr. Salmond.] He was diagnosed as suffering from scarlet fever on the 11th: did the rash come out then ?—I was not there, so I could not say. 26. Dr. Martin.] You are quite satisfied everything was in order about that?— Yes. 27. The Chairman.] That does occur frequently amongst measles, does it? —Yes. 28. Mr. Gray.] What is the period of incubation with scarlet fever? —From two to seveK days—usually two.