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73. Dr. Martin] You remember Pollard? —Yes. 74. He was admitted on a Friday? —Yes. 75. With a temperature of 101'8?—Yes. 76. And he looked ill?— Yes. 77. What was this state on the Saturday? —His temperature was about the same. It varied from 10P8 and went down to 101, I remember, but it never exceeded 102. He still continued to expectorate thick phlegm. 78. He still looked ill?— Yes. 79. What was his state on the Sunday?— About the same. 80. Still looking ill?— Yes. 81. What was his state on the Monday?— His temperature was a little higher on the Monday —102-2. 82. On the Tuesday lie became really ill?— Yes. 83. It had been the rule in Berhampore that if a patient was at all ill the sister used her discretion as to whether to send the patient to the Wellington Hospital?— Yes; the sister sent more than one to the Wellington Hospital. 84. That was the custom up to the time Pollard arrived? —Yes; but I think the majority of the cases were sent by a doctor. I think, however, that Sister Keith had the power. 85. Why was Pollard not sent?—l never heard any mention of his being sent. 86. Do you know why he was not sent? He was obviously ill on the Friday, the Saturday,the Sunday, and the Monday before he became very bad. Why was he not sent? —I do not know why. 87. You do not know why an exception was made in his case? —No. I think he remained in about the same condition from the time he came in until his temperature rose. 88. You say that a pneumonia patient could be treated as well at Berhampore as at Wellington Hospital?—As regards nursing-requisites. 89. I am asking with respect to treatment for pneumonia. Could a pneumonia patient obtain as good treatment at Berhampore as at Wellington Hospital, in your opinion?—No doubt Wellington Hospital is more an ideal place for a pneumonia patient. 90. You do not think a patient could obtain as good treatment at Berhampore as at Wellington Hospital?—l feel that as regards treatment everything was done for him. 91. That is not the question. Do you think Berhampore is as good a place as Wellington Hospital for treating a man with pneumonia?—No doubt Wellington Hospital would have been a better place for them. 92. It would be a better place to treat pneumonia?— Yes. 93. You do not know why Pollard was not sent to Wellington?—No, I never heard it mentioned. 94. Did Dr. Elliott make any complaint when he went out on the sth June? —I never heard that he did. I was not on duty when he called. 95. You say Fordham was asked if he would like to go to the Wellington Hospital?— Yes. 96. Is it a usual thing to ask. a patient if he would like to be transferred?—He told me it was suggested. 97. But is it usual in a hospital, in your experience?—No; the doctor usually decides ■j- whether a patient is to be removed or not. 98. But Fordham was asked his opinion, anil he said he would prefer to remain? —When I went on duty Fordham told me the suggestion had been made that he should go to the Wellington Hospital. I was not on duty at the time it was mentioned. T am repeating Fordham's words. 99. How about the water-supply at Berhampore : did you get plenty of hot water?— Yes. 100. Had the water to be carried up from the gully?—No; the hot water was carried up from the copper. As I said before, there was a cold-water supply in the main building. 101. "Water had to be carried up from below"? —The hot water' was carried up from below. 102. " There was no water in the main building on the 29th June " : is that a fact? —Not that lam aware of. I was not on duty when Dr. Thacker went round. 103. The Chairman] But the water would be there whether you were on duty or not? —Yes. I never heard there had been a deficiency of water. 104. Mr. Gray] Was it, laid on on the 29th June?— Yes. On the 2nd June there was a water-supply. 105. The Chairman] And you got it by turning taps?— Yes. 106. Dr. Martin] What was the date on which you were told to destroy these temperaturecharts? —After all the patients had left. I left on the 17th July. 107. Were you told to destroy the temperature-charts on the 17th July?— Any papers that were in the wards. They did not think it safe to send down to the Defence Department any papers that had been in the wards; but any clean books, &c, which had been kept away from the wards were sent back to the Defence Stores. 108. Were the books containing temperatures sent to the Defence Stores? —No; they were burnt, because they had been in the wards. 109. Pollard's and Fordham's charts were burnt?— Yes. They had been in the wards. 110. Mr. Ferguson] Who gave that instruction : who was it rang up the Defence Department? —I rang up. Sister Hanna was really in charge, and I suggested that we should ring up and ask when we were about to destroy them. 111. Do you know "whom you got on to at the Defence Department?—l am not sure whether it was Major Q,'Sullivan's office or Sergeant-major Gentry's.
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