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Major O'Sullivan further examined. (No. 82.J 1. The Chairman] Had you anything to do with Berhampore Hospital?— Yes, sir. 2. What?—l cannot give you the dates, but one evening at about five minutes to 5 l got a telephone message from Colonel Purdy stating that there were ten or fifteen sick men to be brought in from Trentham the following morning about 10 o'clock, and would 1 try and arrange to get Berhampore Hospital cleaned up. As the men were coming in at 10 o'clock on the following morning, and we would need to provide blankets and other, necessaries, such as knives and forks, and so on, I got into touch with the Vacuum Cleaning Company, and got them to send the men up to the hospital at 7 o'clock p.m. 3. You had it cleaned?—l sent the Vacuum Cleaning Company's men to Berhampore. 4. Mr. Ferguson] Where did you get the key?— There was a caretaker out there, I understand. I may say that the Vacuum Cleaning Company complained that it would be a difficult job to get the work done that night. 5. Did you supply the requisite?— Yes. 6. The Chairman] And, after that, had you anything to do with the breaking-up of the hospital there? —No, sir. 7. Who would look alter that?—l think the brigade supply men —the N.C.O. in charge of the brigade supply department. 8. Who would that be?— Sergeant Gentry. 9. He would bring it in J—Yes. 10. Did you give Sergeant Gentry any orders on the subject?—No, sir. 11. Who would give Sergeant Gentry orders in the ordinary course?—l presume he got them at Berhampore. 12. Would he bring in the things without an order from the persons in authority at headquarters ?—I do not know who gave him the orders. 13. Did you supply anything in the nature of books or temperature-charts?— Not that I know of. 14. Did you get any?—No, sir. 15. Did you supply any note-books for the temperatures (o be recorded in?— Not that I know of. 16. Do you keep any such things for supply to the military hospitals?—We do not keep them in store; only on one occasion we sent up to the Wellington Hospital for some, but 1 do not remember which hospital it was for. 17. You can give us no informal ion as to what became of any temperature-charts which were used at Berhampore?—No, sir. 18. Mr. Ferguson] None of your officers came to you and asked what was to be done with the temperature-charts and books at Berhampore?—No, sir'; I suppose the nurse would look after that, or the Medical Officer in charge. 19. If the nurses say they rang up your department and received instructions to burn them, who would be the right officer to give that instruction?—l did not give such instruction. 20. Sergeant Gentry says he knows nothing at all of them : he says that no such message oi' inquiry came to him —that is, as regards temperature-charts?— Certainly, it. is not likely that any officer of ours would give instructions to burn temperature-charts. 21. Or books?—No, sir. The only thing lam sorry for-is that they did not destroy the blankets and other things. 22. The Chairman] Who was to see that the place was locked up when it was closed? —I have no idea. 23. Every door is open at present?—lt has nothing to do with, mc. 24. Mr. Ferguson] Who would have to do with it?— The medical department under the Adjutant-General.

Tuesday, :.hd August, 1915. Dr. James Sands Elliott sworn and examined. (No. 83.) 1. The Chairman.] You are a medical practitioner practising in Wellington?— Yes. 2. You hold an office in the military service? —Yes, I am a major and Principal Medical Officer. 3. You are also President of the AAtellington Branch of the British Medical Association?— Yes, and Acting Chairman of the New Zealand Branch. 4. At the request of the Commission you and certain other medical gentlemen visited the Trentham Camp ? —Yes. 5. Who were the others who went with you? —Drs. Christie, Mason, Gibbs, Gieseu, Herbert, and Pattie. 6. They are members of the medical council?— Yes. 7. On what dates did you visit the camp?—On the 19th and 31st July. 8. I understand you are here this morning as representing your colleagues and yourself to give us the result of your visits? —Yes. AYe drew up a short report, which is as follows: " (1.) We are not satisfied with the accommodation at Trentham for the infectious cases. (2.) We consider that there is need for a change in the methods of medical administration and supervision. (3.) There is urgent need for a proper system of — (a) Hospital records; (b) up-to-date steam sterilizer (Washington Lyon suggested); (c) increased medical equipment; (d) increased

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