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Do you agree that one of the objects of the Mau was to secure for the Samoans the administration of the Government for Samoa ? —Yes. Do you agree with Tamasese that the part of the British Government should be confined to a Protectorate over the islands, so as to prevent the aggression of another Power other than Great Britain ? —Yes. The opinion of Tamasese and yourself would represent the general opinion of the Mau as to its objects ? —Yes. Was there ever at any time a desire on the part of the Mau to secure the removal from office of the present Administrator ? —No. Mr. Baxter.\ With reference to the paragraph referring to the Fautua, is Tamasese a Fautua, or has he ever been one ? —No ; but his father was a Fautua under the German regime. Who are the present Fautua ?—Tuinialeali'ifano and Malietoa. Tu'u sworn and examined. Mr. Slipper.] Where do you live ? —Safune, Savai'i. Have you any other name besides Tu'u ? —My name as a young man was Faatupua. Have you been banished at any time I—Yes.1 —Yes. Have you got your banishment order with you ?—No ; it is in Safune. The Chairman : Would you mind giving me the date of the banishment order ? Mr. Slipper: 27th April, 1925 ; and pardoned on the 11th August, 1925. (To witness :) How often have you been banished ? —I was only banished once —in 1925. And at the same time was your title taken away ? —Yes. Have you got that order with you ? —No ; it is also in Safune. And what was your title ? —Tu'u. What kind of title is that I—A chief's title of Safune. And you were banished I—Yes.1 —Yes. Where to ?—Satupaitea. Can you give us any idea as to how far away that is from the place where you live I—About1 —About thirty miles. The Chairman.] Is it in Savai'i ? —Yes. Mr. Slipper.] Was there any arrangement made by the Government as to what house you should stay in I—l1 —I was ordered to go to my relatives in Satupaitea and stay there. Had you any relatives there % —Yes. Was any arrangement made for your keep while you were there ? —No. Have you a wife ? —No. Have you any children ?—Yes. Were they little children or big children at this time ? —They were grown up. Perhaps you can tell us, Mr. Meredith : was there any term fixed for the banishment order '! Mr. Meredith : Twelve months. Mr. Slipper: Was there any term fixed for the loss of title ? Mr. Meredith : No term was fixed. Mr. Slipper.] How long were you banished by the order ? —Twelve months. Do you know for sure how long your title was taken away for ?—The order was twelve months. Have you been pardoned —has the banishment order been revoked since then ? —Yes. By another order from the Governor I—No1 —No ; only at the expiration of the period. Did you or did you not stay in Satupaitea for the full twelve months ?• —I was there for a year and four months. Did you get a paper from the Governor saying that your banishment was over and you could go home ?—I got that letter when I had been in Satupaitea for one year and four months. That letter told you what I have already stated I—Yes.1 —Yes. You were one year and four months before you got that letter ? —Yes. Are you quite sure about that, because the records show differently ?—Yes, I am quite sure about that. Did you wish to stop in Satupaitea ? —I stayed there in accordance with the order I received. I waited for the expiration of the order. When you got a revocation of the order did you go home \ —Yes, to Safune. Did you wait any time after that second order, or did you go at once ?—I returned immediately. In the second order does it say anything about your title ? —Yes. What did it say ?—My banishment was ended and my title was restored to me. During the sixteen months you were there did you make any request that your banishment should be ended or your title restored % —No ; I simply obeyed. Referring to the original banishment order in April as to your title and banishment, do you know why these two orders were made against you ? —There was nearly a fight with weapons in the village, which the chiefs of the village endeavoured to quieten, and in so doing decided to drive one family away and exclude this one family from the village affairs. Judge MacComick.] Not from the village itself ? —No; just from the village affairs. The Faipule of our district inquired into the matter, and when I tried to give him an opinion he blamed the trouble to nie. Mr. Slipper.] What was the result of that ? —That was the reason I was banished and my title taken away.

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