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1877. NEW ZEALAND.

REPORTING DEBATES COMMITTEE (INTERIM REPORT OF THE).

JReport brought up Bth October, 1877, and ordered to be printed.

The Committee have the honour to report, that they have compared the proofs of the debate on the Hawke's Bay Land Transactions with Hansard, and they beg to submit to the House a copy of certain passages in the speech of the Honorable Mr. Ormond as printed in the original proofs, set forth in parallel columns with the same passages as reported in Hansard, showing the alterations made by Mr. Ormond. John Ballance, October Bth, 1877. Chairman.

EXTBACTS FBOM THE HON. Me. OhMOND's SPEECH ON THE 6TH SePTEMBEB, IN THE DEBATE ON Hawke's Bat Land Purchases. Peoof Copt.* HANSAED.f This land was, as the honorable member for Eangi- This land was the same block as the honorable tikei has (m4^ especially suitable for " smiling home- member for Eangitikei has described as especially steads." These gentlemen were already members of suited for "smiling homesteads." These gentlemen the landed aristocracy. And, Sir, what did the then were already members of the landed aristocracy; and, Governor do ? He offered to assist them by every Sir, what did the then Governor do ? He offered to means in his power. The gentleman to whom I have assist them by every means in his power to obtain referred immediately camo lioro; *hi 4 made arrange- more lands. The gentlemen to whom I have referred ments for getting possession of this land. But all of made arrangements for getting possession of this a sudden a difficulty arose with the Governor in land. But all of a sudden a difficulty arose with the regard to the subject. This association of gentlemen Governor in regard to the subject. This association suddenly found that it would bo difficult to parry out of gentlemen suddenly found the Governor cold, and what the Governor had wiohod thorn to-carry out. They that he had lost interest in the business. They had had looked upon this as a splendid investment, and looked upon this as a splendid investment, and they they were greatly disappointed to find a sudden were greatly disappointed to find a sudden check put check put upon them. * * * * upon them. * * * * * He get a share, and an agent was started off to the He obtained a share, and an agent was employed and land in question. It was arranged that this agent started off to secure the land in question. It was should be followed by thooo introductions and aoaiot arranged that this agent should be followed by introanco which the—Governor could give him. Sir, the ductions to the Native owners of the land from the Governor at that time was a Governor who had Governor. Sir, the Governor at that time was a special pewe? over the Natives who lived in outlying Governor who had special influence over those districts like Taupo, where the Maoris were shut out Natives who lived in outlying districts like Taupo, from the Europeans and from all European tki»gfe where the Maoris were shut out from the Europeans The agent went to Napier, and it is fortunate that he and from all European influence. The agent went to did so, because if he had not it-ia-pemiMe-that I would Napier ; and it is fortunate that he did so, because if not bo here—te-fligfat—to-pat—thie-matte^-ia—thf-prepe? he had not, the transactions I am describing would rest ligkti-e«d the fact of his going to Napier required on recollection only, but the fact of his going to Napier that letters should be written, and these letters now required that letters should be written, and these exist, ftftd can bo produced at any meaaeak What came letters now exist. What came next? Why, the * Words struck out in proof shown by erased type. t Words inserted and added shown by italics.