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275. Has no one ever complained to you about your betting on the wharf in Wellington ?— N(> - J, n T r ha< ? a n wa § er - I mi g h * say " I would bet a shilling," for fun Wellington . 276. Never had a bet of a shilling ?—No. 277. All your bets have been for fun ?—Yes. 278. You have bet with no one on the wharf? No room? 9 ' D ° yoU kDOW any ° f the billiard - room 9 1Q Wellington ?_No, I know there are billiard--280. Never in one ?—No. in WdHngtonP-No 0 ' SplelerS haVe thdr head <l™-ters in billiard-rooms Force?-No OU ° f *"* P ° litiCal inflUeDC6 bdng inV ° ked in c °™ection with the Police mySe iL T fa e detectives have always assisted me, and I make it a point to assist them * P 284. It has been said tnat there is jealousy on account of the best cases being riven to the detectives, and hat the other men feel aggrieved : apart from yourself, do you know of an Y other policeman who had a grievance against them for that reason ?—No V 285. The Chairman.] Is there any feeling in the Force between the uniform men and the }£2E£S Si been n L O re ]ealOUBy *" *« ™* £?£ 286. I want you to tell me if what I am about to read to you expresses the true view of the feeing existing m the Force : "I may state there is no love lost between the uniformmeTlndthe tW" Ve i?Zf pr evse c n y ti O -No OWn "* *""*« What " ™' on 287. Again, " When a detective comes to a country station on a case he takes full charge and we the uniform men, are subordinate to his orders. He is supposed to possess extra biSowe! and as a rule assumes an air of mystery and pooh-poohs any suggestion made by the local See' and thinks Vidocq and Sherlock Holmes mere novices compared to him." Yo/are not aware of any such feeling existing between the uniform men and the Detective Branch ?-No certainly not 288 Mr. Tunbndge.] In regard to the supposititious case put to you by Mr Tavlor about a SerViCe beiDB "* ° Ut acoSrysSn: years'S the 8 & " *° &C 0 SUti ° n ' he has to be t v 29 °' -u° y ° U nOt . k , nOW that the constabl e s stationed at the Upper Hutt, Lower Hutt and Johnsonville came into town yesterday for duty at the election ?—Yes onl' £ h l Se m f n^ ere called into tow n yesterday from their own districts ?—Yes Yes a general elecfcion y ester( iay these men would have been disfranchised ? . . 2 , 93 - Now > as regards spielers; do you know if any of these spielers in Wellington have committed offences in Wellington for which they could be arrested ?—No 294 Are spielers as a rule in possession of money in pretty considerable amounts?— You mieht arrest them and not find a penny-piece on them. g 295. As a police-officer, do you not know that if a man has money in his possession that is Y?8 uXuSedly SUPPMt Ma g iBtrate > and y° u susSn a charge ?- deal of mone d " nOt a that SpielerS are g enerall y supplied with money ?— They have a great Th? 7, Wel i' ?7' if reg i rdS th r T en Ee f d ° n and McLau gM a *, you say they are book-makers? —They are what I call spielers. Ido not always call a book-maker a spieler ' oqq a, , meD u' aS f f r aS yOU know ' commit any offence against the law?—No ri ht to SS CaU the P ° liCe interfere with them?—No, they have no legal 300. Do you know if Patterson has committed any offence against the law?—No an olence "*"* "* againSt the 1&W ? ~ He is a That is not 302 Mr. Taylor.] As a rule when a spieler is arrested you do not find a shilling on him?-A spieler of the class I refer to is McLaughlan. He is not a bookie. 303. I think you said a spieler's occupation was to follow race meetings, and play games of chance and what else ?-If he has got a show, to use « cronk "dice in gambling 7 g 304. Is it not within your experience in all the large centres of population that the spieling classes are arrested on a charge of having no visible means of support and forced to leave the town? convSedasiv^nt 1 . 116^011 McLa^hlan s P iele - ° f «»* class ? -McLaughlan has been 306. And is he in Wellington now?-I have not seen him for about a week or ten days 307. Have you never known them to be ordered out of the colony by the Magistrate ?-I know of a case where a man has applied for an opportunity to leave the colony, and that'has been accorded o him Under those circumstances the warrant was held back to give him an tunity to leave, but he was not ordered to leave. oppoi 308. And it is about ten days since you saw McLaughlan?—l think so 309. How long is it since you saw Eeardon ?—About the same time 310 Where were they ?-Near the old Evening Post Office, at the corner of Willis Street. ua -tl. A,

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