STANLEY AND EMIN BEY.

Gisborne Standard and Cook County Gazette, Volume IV, Issue 472, 26 June 1890, Page 3

STANLEY AND EMIN BEY.

[Pall Mall Gazette.] Mb Stanley arrived at Cannes on April 12, and waa received by Sir W. Mackinnon, two other members of the Emin Relief Committee, and Mr Jephson. The Prince of Wales sent a messenger to the station to say that he much wished to tee the traveller, but was leaving in an hour. Mr Stau’ey therefore drove at once to the Prince’s Hote’, where h > was kept in conversation until the time of His Royal Highness’ departure. Both Mr Stanley and Surgeon Parke looked well. THE BELIEF COMMITTEE AND EMIN S PBOVINCE. The Cannes correspondent of the Times travelled with them from Genoa, and told Mr Stanley of Father Schinze’s allegation that the Stanley Expedition did not concern Emin Pasha so much as his ivory ; that if he had been let alone the four thousand tons of ivory lying at Wadelai would have covered the expenses of the expedition; that the Relief Committee thought further that if Emin Pasha were provided with provisions he would place bis province at the disposal of his rescuers, and the whole thing would have become a good mercantile speculation, and so on. Mr Stanley said only a depraved and degraded nature could have lent itself to the writing of such stuff. Father Schinze and h's following joined the Stanley Expedition at Kungi as it was returning to Bigamoyo. They were half clothed and half starved. Mr Stanley fed them on the way, and on arriving at the coist paid their tribute. “ There may be the quantity of ivory stated, but it does not stand in a heap at Wadelai. It is very widely scattered, and a year at least of hard work would be required to collect it. What Emin wanted was ammunition. Then, as to getting hold of his province, one of the first things I showed to him, after I found him, was an offer of his own to the British Company. ‘Confound it,’ replied Emin • they ought never to have published that.’ Emin was friendly enough until we reached the coast—until, in fact, he met with his accident and fell into the hands of the Germans. I have no doubt that the who’e of his plans are now in the hands of Major Wissmann.’’ EMIN EASHZs EYESIGHT. Surgeon Parke threw in a remark or two regarding Emin“ A wonder he was not killed,” he said, “ when he walked out of the hotel window, but he is a wiry littie fellow, with a wonderful amount of reserve force, a brilliant conversationalist, amiable and charming when discussing scientific subjects, but by no means so easy to get along I should imagine, when dealing with buein'ess matters. All along the march to the coast he spent most of bis time looking for bugs and beetles, and never ate a meal without having a cloth properly laid with knives and forks, and as many of the equipments of a table as he could rake together. I devoted myself to him earnestly after his accident, and, I believe, saved him, but since he went over to the Geimans we have not heard a word from him." Dr Parke has stated that while on the march they twice thought Mr Stanley would have died. He is also reporte 1 to have said that the cataract from which

Emin suffers is incurable, and that blindness must follow from it within a year. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE EQUATORIAL PROVINCE, Mr Stanley has been interviewed by another correspondent, and in reply to the question : Stanley, what has become of the Equatorial Province?” is reported to have Baid:— ** Abandoned by Emin, it has been conquered long ago by the Madhistr. Four stations were in their bands when we left. There was nothing in the country to resist their advance. The people left behind have scattered, and each little gronp has no doubt chosen a chief. There are 3000 irregular troops pressed into the service by Emin from the surrounding territory. They have gone back to their people. The two battalions of regulars have been probably wiped out by slaughter and desertion. Left of the work accomplished by Emin there is nothing. Give me such a force as he had, and I will retrieve it all in one month.” “ You know your ememies say that Emin could have continued to govern and to carry on the work?" “Hat 1 do; it is absurd.” •*•0 AND GATHER BUTTERFLIES AND BUGS.” “ Suppose you had left Emin where you found him, what would have been the result ?” “He would have been at this moment in Khartoum as a common slave. The Madhists woald have made him share the common fate. Nothing could have saved him. If I had found Emin with a strong and stable force and an established authority, I would have given him ammunition. It would have been give, give, give, and pray to God for the rest. Bat what are the facts ? I found Emin, made him three offers—first to remain and receive £l5OO a year and a subsidy of £12,000; secondly, to be escorted to another part of Africa, and there established as Governor; thirdly, to be taken out of Africa safe. He said he wanted time to think. I gave him a year, and went away under a cloud of mystery, which was only penetrated when I returned and found Emin a prisoner. Emin was as much a prisoner as a fellow in chains. His people did not want him. They said in effect: *Go and gather butterflies and bugs; and we want none of you.’ There was no government left. His servants would not obey him. When he asked how many would leturn with him, only one man consented. He was like a captain whose crew bad mutinied and turned'liim adrift in a small boat. Had Emin been frank with me when I first met him and told me his situation, I would have advised him how to act. When I returned it was too late to do anything but save him." EMIN AND THE GERMANS. “ What do you think of Emin’s action in joining the Germans ?” “I suppose it’s only natural. The Germans wanted to get him into their service. He was sick and in the Hospital. Ten minutes before the terrible accident that almost cost him his life he made a most grateful speech, but after he was in the German hospital all the old friendly relatione seemed to cease, and we could not even get our letters answered.”

“ What do you think the Germans mean by employing Emin!” “They want to annex territory." " What territory ?” “Well, there is no doubt that he is going to get in and cut off the British coast from the interior Of Africa.” HOW T 8 GET FOSSESSION OF THE SOUDAN. “ Could you get possession of the Soudan ?’’ “ Ihave not the slightest doubt of it, and it could be done if England would only do her duty. Such a project would need at least £3,000,000. There is not a Government in Europe that has the stamina to do it. Such a work needs a nucleus in the shape of a man of vast wealth, or a man of vast influence.” “ What will happen when the Germans build their railway from Bagamoyo ? Will they not control the Lake region “ Of course they will, and if they get the Lake region they will destroy ths whole value of the British possessions on the coast. After a while they would want the coast as well.”